madimpossibledreamer: Jiraiya|Yosuke jumping and using a throwing star (Default)
part I

I’ve been thinking about this again lately, partly because of the remake (and what are they going to do, call it Persona 4 Golden Xtreme? That’s a kiwami joke btw). And also because I realized that if someone’s literary reading skills are so poor, then just dunking on them isn’t too productive. So rolls up sleeves part 2. It will be a lot shorter than Part 1, mostly because I’m doing a Critical Lenses 101 with some minimal ‘this is how it relates to Persona 4’.

I will also note this has nothing to do with people who want Kanji to be straight and Naoto to be cis for the purposes of genderfuckery and nonconformity which are awesome and valid reasons—unless you’re going around and telling people that they’re not allowed to read a text differently from you. That’s not only not going to happen, because everyone’s going to come out of a text with a slightly different reading due to individual differences: socio-economic class, gender, sexuality, etc, and going to make you miserable because your game of whack-a-mole of different readings will never be done, but also, the act of telling people they’re existing wrong being bad is maybe one of the key Persona 4 themes, so don’t? I’ve run into that a couple of times, but for the most part, it’s people bemoaning the existence of gender or sexual minorities within their line of sight. Which, valid reading within one interpretive lens, but it is the blandest of the bland and not just because they think it’s the only correct interpretation, when it’s more of the sorta default?

Lenses are the particular way we’ve chosen to view the text. Sending us back in history, yeah, the main lens was cisheteronormative and also author’s intent. In several cases, this involved reading every single piece of correspondence written by an author. If they hadn’t said something definitive about the point in question, it was your duty to either ignore it or argue about how some unrelated line in an interview could be stretched to apply. With the advent of the theory Death of the Author, you could just read the text and let it stand on its own without needing to know anything about the author outside the work. (I’d also argue a lot of people also like to engage in psychoanalytic or Freudian criticism these days, because everyone’s so sure about what a text reveals about the author...and while, such as with Hashino, especially combined with outside statements patterns between works might reveal something, I feel it’s safe to say that it is vastly overapplied). Other lenses you may have heard of are Marxist, feminist, queer, and critical race theory...which I hadn’t actually realized was a literary critical lens because it hadn’t been taught while I was in school, and in which case the hyperbolics against it comes off looking even less informed, because lenses are not meant to show you the capital-T Platonian Truth. Then again, I forget that for some people critical thinking is the enemy, because it lets you evaluate for yourself rather than following exactly what you’ve been told to do.

Unless you and someone else are using the same lens for a text, arguing about how “you’re reading the text wrong” is pointless. If the other person is reading in a lens that decenters the author, then arguing about how “the author said x on twitter” is useless. (And things get convoluted even if you do care about what the author says in multi-creator works, such as a game—if the writers, the voice actors, etc all were on board with a romanceable Yosuke storyline and the director said no, who gets priority?) If you’re both arguing from within the same lens, you can then look at how a particular piece of the text is better or worse for a particular reading through that lens.

I also don’t expect a lot of the people to care, mostly because a lot of the people making the argument come off like homophobic, biphobic, and/or transphobic jerks, but the idea that gay or trans stories aren’t deep, worth a deeper look, and are just shallow surface level *aesthetic~* that can be used for any story just as set dressing especially when mainly applied to either give the relief mentioned in the last chapter that “oh, phew, I’m not trans after all” or “oh, phew, I’m not gay after all” or to set up for jokes is deeply insulting.  I don’t care if you have a different critical lens, but it is yours, and it is common, but it is not universal.  Let me have mine.

(I also am going to English Nerd here and say that maybe headcanons are extensions of our favorite critical lens of reading applied with various degrees of evidence to back them up, even when we don’t necessarily realize that ourselves, but. I’d probably need a lot more research to explain that particular theory and I’ve only seen one other academic thing even dive into headcanons and how they relate to this. Let me know if you have more; I’m actually really curious how that would get defined.  Especially if there’s something in Transformative Works and Cultures [the Ao3 published peer-reviewed academic journal] or something.)

madimpossibledreamer: Jiraiya|Yosuke jumping and using a throwing star (Default)
Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary: The witness for Souji's latest case is a man he doesn't expect.

Word Count: 2311
Rating: Teen

 

no more getting in my own way (that's a lie) )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (bi king)
Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
Jun and the Investigation Team catch a glimpse of Tatsuya's plan.
Word Count: 1008
Rating: Teen
Pairing:
past and future Tatsuya/Jun

 

Erica )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Dante fighting demons (dante)
Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary:
Yosuke is prone to dramatics, but thankfully Souji doesn't mind (anymore).
Word Count: 260
Rating: Teen

          “I hate cats.” Yosuke flopping dramatically, draping himself over Souji, is pretty much as dramatic as a cat seeking attention, although he’s not going to say so out loud at the moment. At least he made sure not to wrinkle any precious court documents. He’s being vaguely thoughtful in his desire for Souji to serve as a fainting couch.
          “You do not hate cats,” he replies mildly, nonetheless responding to the desire for comfort and running his fingers through his partner’s hair. Yosuke sighs and goes boneless.
          And then yawns. He’s not going to be able to keep his grudge going, which is good because Souji likes not being single with Yosuke. Then again, it’s easy not to take Yosuke’s hyperbolic statements of vendetta seriously; he’s usually bad at keeping them even when he desperately wants to, which is part of why Souji hadn’t taken his pursuit of the Mole so seriously. “I do when they make me run all over town and then fall off a building. At least the owner was appreciative in the form of thanks and extra cash,” he mutters.
          Souji instantly starts checking him for wounds (seriously, despite being a detective you’d think he wouldn’t fall off a building again, Souji really really hated seeing him in the hospital the first time) and Yosuke chuckles into Souji’s thigh. “I’m fine, honest,” he mutters, already on the verge of drifting off right here and now, and Souji clucks his tongue, unimpressed.
          “I’m concerned about your definition of fine, detective,” he responds. He can feel the smile.


madimpossibledreamer: Izanagi|Souji in full costume holding out a hand (personatown)
Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary:
Yosuke and Seta share a moment after Souji's attacked by yakuza.
Word Count: 1277
Rating: Teen

 

reconnecting, finally )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Jiraiya|Yosuke jumping and using a throwing star (Default)
Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary: Picking up Nanako turns out to be more eventful than anyone thought.

Word Count: 1677
Rating: Teen
Warning: There is a fan being creepy but it doesn't rise above anything from Persona 4 (and definitely doesn't get to the level in Judgment).

 

making friends and enemies )

 

Rain Rescue

Dec. 1st, 2024 03:28 pm
madimpossibledreamer: Zhuge Liang standing with his fan, looking peaceful.  Army in background. (peace)
Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary: Yosuke gets kicked out of his apartment.
  Amagi offers an alternative.
Word Count: 525
Rating: Teen

 

blame yukiko for studying the golden castle and incorporating even more wacky architecture )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (tatsuya)

...these might be friends, but I’m getting lesbian vibes from the ‘you’re going to protect me’, and they made me laugh too. (It’s not chie and yukiko, though, yukiko would be poking every ghost and chie would be running away. Not both of them running away.)

madimpossibledreamer: Jiraiya|Yosuke jumping and using a throwing star (jiraiya|yosuke)
Main Points: Persona 4 Playthrough Unbreakable Ties, Second Person
Chapter Summary: Rise starts a conversation.  That was possibly unwise.

Word Count: 335
Rating: T
warning: not in much more detail than this warning, but body fluids and public restrooms

 

some conversations are dangerous )

 


madimpossibledreamer: Jiraiya|Yosuke jumping and using a throwing star (jiraiya|yosuke)
I love this game even years later; the eldritch horror was top tier.  But this bothered me, too.  (Someone I knew in college was a big fan of these types of commercials.  I just don't get it, man.)

Main Points: Persona 4 Playthrough Unbreakable Ties, Second Person
Chapter Summary: One particular thought won't let Souji relax after the end, even when he's trying to wind down after the festival.

Word Count: 360
Rating: T
warning: discussion of cannibalism.  Spoilers are mild?

 

it didn't work on Souji )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Paper lanterns floating over a fleet of ships. (lanterns)
Starring Yosuke Hanamura as Takayuki Yagami, Akihiko Sanada as Masaharu Kaito, and Tohru Adachi as Mitsuru Kuriowa. Featuring Saki Konishi as Emi Terasawa, Chie Satonaka as Saori Shirosaki, Naoki Konishi as “Masaki” aka Fumiya Sugiura, Naoto Shirogane as Makoto Tsukumo, Takeharu Kirijo as Mitsugu Matsugane, Kenji Tomochika as Masamichi Shintani, Kou Ichijo as Satoshi Sioya, Daisuke Nagase as Akira Murase, Kuroda (husband of the “Death” social link) as Waku, Tatsuya Sudou as Yoji Shono, Mitsuo Kubo as Ko Hattori, Marie as Mariko Kusumi aka Kazuya Ayabe, Margaret as Shinju Miyama aka Kunihiko Morita, and Takahisa Kandori as Shigeru Kajihira.

 

Main Points:
Persona 4 Verdict AU (P4/Judgment Fusion)
Chapter Summary: Yosuke confronts the Mole
in the hidden casino, the Velvet Room.
Word Count: 700
Rating: Teen
Massive spoilers for Persona 4 and Judgment.

fight for justice )
madimpossibledreamer: Jotaro pointing at the camera (kujo)

Redundant? Possibly. But in difficult families conversations like this can be spread out like this, and reaffirming ‘we love each other’ is a big deal.


Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
Neither of them planned for this conversation, but another talk between Tatsuya and Katsuya seems to have cleared up the rest of the misunderstandings—for now, at least.
Word Count: 900
Rating: Teen
Pairing:
Katsuya/Maya, past and future Tatsuya/Jun

 

building bridges )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Eye from manga drawing. (phoenix)

Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
At least Tatsuya's conversation with Eikichi and Miyabi goes smoothly.
Word Count: 695
Rating: Teen
Pairing: Eikichi/Miyabi


probably the easiest conversation )
madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (tatsuya)
Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
This is the conversation Jun had been hoping for during their last reunion.  It doesn't make this one bit easier.
Word Count: 900
Rating: Teen
Pairing: past and future Tatsuya/Jun
Warning: honest discussion about depression/self-loathing, if you need help please seek it!

 

as the ice melts, just a little )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Eye from manga drawing. (edgeworth)
hopefully the whining media and donors haven't just cost the US a democracy.
okay yeah it's going well. still concerned, but no longer worried.

Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
faster to read
Word Count: 150
Rating: Teen
Pairing: background Katsuya/Maya

         Tatsuya had thought himself ready for Maya-nee’s arrival. As expected, she doesn’t ask any questions or bring any personal grudges to bear. Just like everyone else, she appears to have been crying a little, makeup hastily reapplied (and it seems she’s still relying on her former roommate to help her out there, because there are mistakes even an amateur like Tatsuya can spot). She is, however, beaming through the tears, and whether she’s actually happy his hand has been forced and he can no longer hide behind excuses or she’s putting on a brave smile, trying to get through this with positive thinking, is entirely unclear, but extremely admirable either way.
         He was not ready for her to simply hug him like a big sister would, and all of a sudden he finds himself crying uncontrollably on her shoulder as she gently lets him and his big brother watches helplessly.

madimpossibledreamer: Izanagi|Souji in full costume holding out a hand (izanagi|souji)
Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
Tatsuya finds himself as unprepared to deal with Lisa as ever.
Word Count: 530
Rating: Teen
Pairing:
background Lisa/OC, past and future Jun/Tatsuya even if Tatsuya doesn't think he deserves it
Warning: briefly discussed depression; if you need help please seek it!

 

a whirlwind as ever )

 

My Own Fate

Jul. 7th, 2024 12:54 pm
madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (tatsuya)

I actually love Philemon but I don’t think Tatsuya has or ever will forgive the bet.


Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
The first interrogation is the hardest, but it's necessary.
Word Count: 1912
Rating: Teen
Pairing: background Katsuya/Maya and hinted Minato/Akihiko

 

hard conversations and a chance to heal after all these years )
madimpossibledreamer: Jotaro pointing at the camera (kujo)
Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero) Second Person (Souji POV)
Chapter Summary:
Yosuke has an observation.
Word Count: 680
Rating: Teen
Warning: mostly related to Yosuke's and Tatsuya's self-esteem

 

seeing other people's Shadows is still uncomfortable even if they're getting used to it )

 


madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (bi king)
Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
Sevens holds two separate but related fears.
Word Count: 1915
Rating: Teen
Pairing: Jun/Tatsuya (only really past in this part)
Warning: generally more painful self-esteem and depression stuff

 

witnessing fault to every pawn in the game )

 

madimpossibledreamer: Tatsuya holding a motorcycle helmet under his arm and looking at a swingset (bi protag ftw)
I tried so hard to make the order make sense so they're actually going one ward at a time and then somehow wrote the wrong ward name here and gave myself a panic attack past!self why

Main Points:
Persona 2/Persona 4 crossover (Broken Hero)
Chapter Summary:
Maya-nee's apartment is preserved like a shrine to the dead.
Word Count: 770
Rating: Teen
Pairing: Jun/Tatsuya (only really past in this part)

 

memories in cold decay )

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