madimpossibledreamer: Eye from manga drawing. (phoenix)
who knows what writing decisions go on in the head of Maxwell Grant?  The Shadow Knows.
(but honestly, why is Partners of Peril so different than the other Shadow stories [i'm talking written not radio]?  Lamont Cranston is not the true identity of the Shadow, merely one of the ones he takes when fighting crime, and one of my favorites involves Lamont talking to the Shadow and going "what is going on" and being all annoyed before he realizes he was bored and this is kinda fun and becomes an agent (The Hydra).  And I'll have to reread but I can't recall an instance of the Shadow being injured in the books, much less multiple times in the same story)

(the answer is, and I researched it and didn't update it, it wasn't written by Walter Gibson like most of the stories.  It was written by Theodore Tinsley.  the more you know
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I actually clapped in delight when I found this one.

And oh man this is one of my favorite plots I legit have tried to write this several times (actors becoming the people they play or at least getting the memories/powers)

Nazi men weren’t the only ones getting people killed, Margo.

I like the argument of “are you the shadow?  Are you the shadow?”  Kent and Lamont interacting is fun.  (another reason why “Lamont Cranston is the Shadow” from the radio and movies is a copout.)

Ah yes.  Shiwan khan.  who I think showed up in one magazine story and the radio program based on that story and the movie (and it turns out the batman crossover; I looked it up to be sure)

“Come on in, Khan.  The water’s fine.”  DIALOGUE

Also “hit him with a cheaper vintage” LIKE YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT SHADOWMAN

“How many shadows does a shadow cast?”  I need to stop quoting all the dialogue.  IS GREAT

I don’t remember preston being one of the Shadows as I ranked the ones I’d heard by laugh

The answer is no.  it’s fictional.  Fair enough; can’t be using Orson Welles for this.

And there’s the Blue Coal commercial.  :)

LEAVE ME MY SAFETY BLANKET LADY

You have particularly good lines there

After reading the Spider story it’s so cool to hear the Shadow say “you can’t solve every problem with a gun” I am grinning

This is meta.  This is so meta.  This is the kind of self-interrogation that many people wouldn’t do and just.  (though what happened to preston I wanna know)

Though it’s kind of odd that you were talking to yourself and couldn’t make yourself understand, say, with a mind probe?

Also your literal shadow is talking to you

Right xinca was the tribe he’d befriended when he’d crash-landed and supposedly died

That doesn’t match the backstory I read, but then, it didn’t stay…consistent, let us say?

I thought I recognized the name.  good reference

(always good to be fighting the Nazis)

Aww that was good.  I’m glad I found this.

This is an interrogation/metanarrative of The Shadow.  Only instead of coming to a bad conclusion, the story renews its belief inhumanity, even though there are some humans with evil in their hearts.
 

madimpossibledreamer: Jotaro pointing at the camera (kujo)

this story is brought to you by a slightly more sane NRA, aka everyone needs guns but you should definitely train with them and keep them locked up away from the kiddos (sadly, not even kidding, it's one of the letters "The Spider" answered in the back of the magazine...)
(It comes off as especially bad when compared to the Twilight Zone/Shadow episode I'll talk about soon on first look and also...maybe not so good an inspiration for Spider-Man which apparently according to the (unfortunately late) Stan Lee he was somehow??)

honestly though?

The Spider is not as fun as The Shadow.  The Spider definitely comes off as a copycat (though I find the limp interesting, that’s like…a single detail).  I have no idea what this man does for a living.  Sure, he’s a vigilante, but what’s his day job?  I don’t get the sense that the writer has an idea of his backstory, only where he is now, and that’s good and all but that’s a single aspect of the character. 

There’s definite similarities in the writing but I like “Grant’s” writing less.  Part of it is the construction—not sure what’s up here, but…eh, part of it might be that hyphens are liberally used rather than further elaboration.  I dunno, I’ll pull out one of my Shadow Magazines tomorrow to do a comparison.  (Looking at it now…The Shadow doesn’t overuse exclamation points.  Yeah, okay, it’s largely a punctuation thing.  The excess of hyphens/dashes and ellipses [problems I’ve got but I work on it] and exclamation points [which I do not have as a problem] make it a much less smooth read, unlike The Shadow where semicolons are often used correctly and unobtrusively.  It’s an issue of flow.  There are a few issues where dialogue also feels less good in flow, but.)

And part of that lack of character understanding leads to a less charismatic character.  One of the best parts of the Shadow is his organization, actually, which is something some of the adaptations miss.  And while there was the occasional Shadow story with racist stuff (largely in the radio adaptations, though again I’ll dig through and find the single story I’d found so far that was over the top—that would be Lingo, which has a Chinatown segment and also Jericho being cool), Jericho’s an important and especially for the time complex portrayal of an African-American character.  He plays a little into the gentle giant stereotype but subverts it in that he has to be just as quick-witted and fast on his feet as his (probably white) fellow Agents. 

(Again, I’ll look more into the stereotype later, but especially in analysis of Detroit: Become Human I’d heard about the stereotype and it seemed different than that.  [Looked into it.  Okay, TV Tropes says that it’s the mere fact that they are scary, but there are subversions you can do with the stereotype and I’d say this is one, particularly when the villains are portrayed as unintelligent for believing the stereotype and underestimating him, particularly his intelligence.  Quite honestly it’s bad that we’ve got more nuance in a story from the 1930s than David Cage can dream of.  Okay, I’ve come up with a good analogy.  It’s like Charlie Chan, which is simultaneously stereotypical, regressive, progressive, and kind of fun, and there’s no problem with liking it [I do!] but you have to be aware and acknowledge and maybe even discuss that you can’t separate one part from all the others.]) 

It’s even sexist with the main villain woman being a cardboard cutout femme fatale.  While Margo was again, just as capable an Agent.  (Not always portrayed that way in movies or the radio program.  Unfortunately.)  The Shadow as portrayed in the magazine series, which almost always has more nuance, like I mentioned, than the movies or radio, is not perfect.  Certainly there are problematic aspects, but it seems less pervasive and one-sided than many of the other work I’ve seen from the time. 

It just seems like while “Maxwell Grant” thinks about layers and layers of stuff that never makes it onto the page (and sometimes contradicts itself making the Shadow ever more so “terribly mysterious” [quoting Blue Raja there]), “Grant Stockbridge” just isn’t.  In other words, don’t just tell a story with things you find cool.  That’s first draft material.  Once you get to second and especially final draft, you have to question why things are there, what the audience will think, why why why.  Creators aren’t creating in a vacuum; what they make is both impacted by and impacting the world they live in, because media shapes public and private opinion.  It could go further (a female Shadow would be really cool, for instance), but I really like where the Shadow was, especially for its time, and I just…don’t like where the Spider is.  Not for today, and especially not for its time.  (Maybe I just read the worst of the Spider stories, kind of like how I’d write off the entirety of Star Trek if the first episode I saw was the TNG episode Code of Honor but…it’s not exactly a good look/start.)

madimpossibledreamer: Zhuge Liang standing with his fan, looking peaceful.  Army in background. (peace)
i don't remember exactly what comic this was but it was an ac comic

hey look awesome old man altair.  rather than bitter deadly old man ezio.  the world is a strange place.
old man altair knocks over a spear *distant old man malik yelling*
lamont cranston just randomly meets an assassin (he was talking about descendants)
madimpossibledreamer: Eye from manga drawing. (ace attorney)

v  The Shadow stories (Source: Fanfic.net)

Ø  https://www.fanfiction.net/u/17483/Scarlet

Ø  The Shadow

Ø  Lamont/Margo

Here’s another of the five—in this case, a user rec.

Like several other cases, the Shadow movie was my introduction to a much more awesome source—The Shadow.  (The pulps are actually the best, by the way.)  The script for the movie was decent, but they kept undercutting what would otherwise be an enjoyable film with dumb gags that just take away from the original material.

There’s none of that here.  Scarlet manages to expand on the concepts and world hinted at within the movie while making it a really enjoyable experience.  She fixes the problems to make it a truly enjoyable version of The Shadow.  My favorites are the movie novelization (Who Knows What Evil) and one of the best murder mysteries set on a cruise I’ve ever read (The Illusion of Propriety).

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